24 - Brandon Yadegar | Mighty Process Server

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0:00Brandon Yadegar:I was like, man, I need to have somebody come relieve me. So I called my girlfriend at that time. I'm like, hey, you know, I'm doing the steak count. She's like, what's that?

0:09Mighty Mike:And, oh, no.

0:10Brandon Yadegar:Long story short, I had to pee. And listen, I made it happen. And I didn't go to the bathroom, I'll put it that way.

0:17Mighty Mike:Oh, come on. Give us the details, man. Did you do a bottle? Was it a bottle?

0:22Brandon Yadegar:Yes. The bottle of water that I had drank finished out of.

0:25Mighty Mike:That's not so bad, man. We've all been there. Let me tell you, it's better than being in the driveway of the person you just served.

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0:39Intro:high stakes world of process serving. From elite pros to the new servers taking massive action, these are the voices of a rising industry. Hosted by the founder of 1-2-3 Legal Support, Mighty Mike Reed. This is your backstage pass to building a profitable process serving empire.

1:00Intro:Let's get into it.

1:05Mighty Mike:15 years of experience serving papers. He is known as the celebrity server in Los Angeles. From nightclubs to the rodeo Drive, he always gets them. Served as the COO for On Call Legal, he's virtually dominated the insurance and collection firm. Brandon Yadigar, welcome to the show.

1:22Brandon Yadegar:Thank you for having me, Mike. It's a pleasure to be here.

1:24Mighty Mike:Awesome, Brandon. Well, I'm excited about this show because you and I have been talking for a little bit about prank a process server. You guys stay tuned to the end of the show because after we hear Brandon's story and all the awesome things that he has going on, we are definitely going to call some of our fellow process servers and see what they can take. How did you get started in this industry, Brandon?

1:43Brandon Yadegar:Started actually while I was in law school. My partner, who's an attorney as well, he told me, you sure you want to be an attorney? And I said, no. At the time, I was just doing it because I was dating this one girl that you either had to be a doctor or an attorney to marry her. So. And I really wanted to marry her. And I was in law school, man. Probably wasn't gonna be the best attorney because it's just not where my heart was. But I knew I didn't want to be a doctor either. So we got out and it was during the recession, 2007 or 8. He said, Listen, I know attorney services and they're not offering the quality that they can be offering. And I have a different idea. And at first I Laughed at the idea, but long story short, here we are.

2:29Mighty Mike:That's craz. I laughed at the idea of doing attorney services, and then now you're like, one of the top companies in Los Angeles.

2:35Brandon Yadegar:There we go. Yeah.

2:37Mighty Mike:Well, you're a humble guy. I appreciate it. So where did you receive your training?

2:41Brandon Yadegar:Funny. Actually didn't. Nobody was there to train me. I always wish that I worked for an attorney service before I started, but I hit the floor running, got my first serve and just read about the laws and got my license and started off from there.

2:56Mighty Mike:Wow. It's similar to me when I first started. I looked on YouTube, watched probably every YouTube video, even the ones I probably didn't want to watch, and then went to Khals Pro, got certified through Calspro and met contacts. Really? That was where it started for me. So that's cool.

3:12Brandon Yadegar:Yeah, that's great. Yeah, I see. I did. I wasn't even aware of Calspro when we started. I learned much down the line about naps, which really actually helped my business take off because I would get phone calls, not just from affiliates, but from law firms, and start off really small and just blossomed over time.

3:27Mighty Mike:That's awesome. So what is your. What is your closest landmark? Are there any cool places where you live?

3:32Brandon Yadegar:Yeah, I mean, there's. South of me in Orange County. There's like, Disneyland while I'm in Beverly Hills. It's like Rodeo Drive and glitz and glamour and all that cool stuff.

3:42Mighty Mike:That is cool. That is cool. So tell us about your worst experience doing this job.

3:47Brandon Yadegar:I don't know. I think my worst experience was actually a rather embarrassing one. I was doing a stakeout. And you know how clients, sometimes they just want you to get your mask, so they say, stay longer and stay longer. And I anticipated everything. And I brought food and all that. And obviously I was drinking, drinking a lot of water, and I had to pee really bad. So I kept waiting and I. And I was like, man, I need to have somebody come relieve me. So I called my girlfriend at that time. I'm like, hey, you know, I'm doing the steak count. She's like, what's that?

4:19Mighty Mike:And, oh, no.

4:20Brandon Yadegar:Long story short, I had to pee. And listen, I made it happen. And I didn't go to the bathroom. I'll put it that way.

4:27Mighty Mike:Oh, come on. Give us the details, man. Did you do a bottle? Was it a bottle?

4:32Brandon Yadegar:Yes, the bottle of water that I had drank. Finish.

4:35Mighty Mike:That's not so bad, man. We've all been there. Let me tell you it's better than being in the driveway of the person you just served.

4:41Brandon Yadegar:Yeah, I kind of wanted to because I was angry at them not coming out. But, yeah, I didn't want to. You know, who knows? Sometimes the person you're serving turns out to be an attorney and they actually become your clients. So I've had.

4:52Mighty Mike:That's true. Yeah, that's true. That's good stuff. How do you handle aggressive animals while you're working in the field?

5:00Brandon Yadegar:By animals, do you mean the survey or the actual pet?

5:05Mighty Mike:Both.

5:06Brandon Yadegar:Yeah. So I try to. To the extent that I can calm them down. I'm not doing so many servers myself anymore.

5:14Mighty Mike:But you're a big shot now. You're running the show.

5:18Brandon Yadegar:I did them for nearly a decade. Even after five years, I completely could have stopped, but I actually enjoy it. I also train our process servers myself. I have some techniques that I would love to even share with you guys, just so it lowers the number of times you have to go and attempt. A lot of the older crossovers obviously know these tactics, but you'd be surprised some of them don't. For instance, if I'm gonna go knock on your door and I'm gonna serve you, and let's say I'm serving you, Mike, right? What do people do? Normally they knock on the door and say, hey, I have a package for Mike. Is he available? Right? And then that person. Or they'll say, hey, are you Mike? Right. But that gives you the chance and opportunity to ask, who are you? What is it you have? You know what I mean? So. Or I don't know. You know, Mike's not here. But what I do is I act like I'm your friend, and I'll knock on the door, and you'll answer the door, and I'll say, mike, how are you? And right away, like, good. Can I help you? Yeah, I got some legal documents. Have a nice day. You know, so I weed out right away if you're that person or not. Another tactic is, for instance, when I'm serving somebody, I get a lot of stuff that comes back from other affiliates that we send out work to. They say, oh, this person said so? And so doesn't reside there. I said, well, did you ID them? Did you find out that that's them or not? And one thing I love to tell people is, hey, you know what? If you're not this person, they're going to continue to send process servers here, and you don't want to be bothered every day and night. And it gets annoying because they come all times of the day and the night. Just give me your id, I'll jot it down and you'll be out of the system for good. And it's kind of like a cold call where you'll never have a telemarketer to call you again. And people that aren't that person will run and give you their ID because they want to be on the do not call list, so to speak. So tactics like that.

7:22Mighty Mike:That's good. And oftentimes when you do that, you'll find out the people who are lying to you.

7:26Brandon Yadegar:Exactly. Because if the guy's like, I'm not sure, I don't need to show you my idea. They slam the door in your face without saying anything to, then, hey, guess what? You just, you can announce service right then and there and you're done.

7:36Mighty Mike:Right? Right. And worst case scenario, you find out it wasn't them later and you go back and serve them.

7:41Brandon Yadegar:There you go, someone else.

7:42Mighty Mike:Yeah, yeah. I always say you serve him and leave them and then, you know, and then verify.

7:46Brandon Yadegar:Yeah. Because you can always look, you can always make the proof of service if you're not sure. Like, you know, all of us have been through that time and we're like, ah, man, I don't know if that was my guy or not, or, oh, I don't know if that person is covering for them or not. Right. Serve them. Because you can always decide you're not gonna draft the affidavit of service, you know, but if you only the documents there, then it's not. You go back next weekend and just leave it by the door, you know, that's good stuff.

8:10Mighty Mike:And so. Do you have kids, Brandon?

8:12Brandon Yadegar:I have a 11 month old and it's really taken a toll on me, man, to be honest with you. It's, it's a lot of fun. But it doesn't become a priority after that, unfortunately, or fortunately, once you have

8:27Mighty Mike:a baby, once you have a child of any kind. I know because I have eight of them.

8:30Brandon Yadegar:To me, I was like, no way. Kidding around, man.

8:34Mighty Mike:I got a ton of them and I got pictures all over my wall right here of just, you know, they love to draw and oftentimes it's because I'm working. So they come and I'm like, here, take a. Out of the printer. I'll take a page out and say, draw me something. So I have like a whole, I have a whole wall of, you know, artwork from three year olds. Because once they get to be about five, all they want to do is play video games.

8:56Brandon Yadegar:I know, I know. I have ne. I've seen it. But I don't know. Eights is. You're juggling for sure.

9:03Mighty Mike:Oh, yeah. Well, we have so much fun. And honestly, they bring so much joy to my life, and so that's cool. You got. So you're getting a lot of sleep then?

9:11Brandon Yadegar:Nothing, bro. No sleep, man.

9:13Mighty Mike:Well, I appreciate you taking the time to do the interview. We're gonna get to some fun stuff here in a minute. But before we do, what is the story that you'll be telling your kids when. When they grow up?

9:23Brandon Yadegar:Don't be a process.

9:28Mighty Mike:I think I'm with you on that. Two boys that are about to be 18. I'm like, you guys. You guys could do so much better. You know, you can do so many other things. But the cool thing is, is when you. When you are a process server and you realize the amount of money you can make, they can certainly be an entrepreneur when they grow up.

9:45Brandon Yadegar:Absolutely, man. This one of the only industries where one of the only. You can dictate how much money you make, how many clients you want to bring in, how much do you want to expand? It's entirely up to you. And we live in. So it's an entrepreneur's dream world.

10:04Mighty Mike:Right. The sky is the limit. So. So, Brandon, what is the greatest advice you've ever received?

10:09Brandon Yadegar:Greatest advice was a quote that was given to me by a process server. I'll give you his name because you won't mind. Juan Hernandez. He's out in Rancho Cucamonga. So when I first started, he really helped me out. He actually gave me tons of services for even free, believe it or not, because that's just what a good guy he is. He told me, you're only as good as your last serve to your client. So make sure that every single service is perfect, because you can do a decade worth of service. And if you just mess up on one. The law industry is an unforgiving industry.

10:48Mighty Mike:It is. Yep. You're only as good as your last serve. You know, like, I remember doing some slam dunks for some attorneys and just. Or putting in the extra hours and stakeout time. And then, you know, I misspelled. One of my staff members actually misspelled the attorney's name on one of the proofs. And, you know, I didn't hear from her for months.

11:06Brandon Yadegar:My.

11:06Mighty Mike:What happened? You know, it's like she said, oh, you know, you guys can't get the proof right. This was. You know, the judge actually noticed it in at the hearing. And it's like the judge noticed your name was misspelled. And so sometimes you just can't make everybody happy. So don't kill yourself over it. But definitely put systems in place so that stuff like that doesn't happen.

11:25Brandon Yadegar:We had a law firm, it was called Nosson llp. Don't mind giving their names. Eight locations. We were doing their inter office pouching, just their pouching was over $24,000 a month of revenue for us. They gave us boatloads and boatloads of messenger services, court filings. They were the ideal law firm that you wanted. And all their services were so easy. Businesses, banks. It was the ideal account. It was bringing in over $300,000 a month of revenue on average. Some months were a lot higher. It completely changed us because we did so much for them and we had to rev up all of our employees, get different types of insurance to please them. Long story short, we lost after nine months and we killed ourselves to get the account. It was a whole bidding process. We had to do so many hurdles to get it. But anyway, the reason why we lost it, it was the stupidest reason in the world. And we gave them stellar service for nearly a year. But one mistake and it was as if we literally couldn't do worse. And it wasn't a, it was a fixable mistake, you know, but like you said, the smallest of things can just change it for people. And that's how our industry unfortunately is. And most of my friends are attorneys, actually. They make fun of me because they think that my job is not stressful at all. But they have no idea we have zero margin of error. Would you agree?

13:02Mighty Mike:Yeah, I would agree. Attorney can say, well, there are different opinions. It's more of a tactful approach, you know, to do it this way or to do a case that way. And they can just chalk it up to, oh, it happened to be the judge didn't like this certain thing about a person. Or, you know, it can be so many different things, but for us it's black and white. Did you deliver it? Did you show the diligence? Did you do the proof? Did you do it on time by a certain date?

13:26Brandon Yadegar:Yeah, you know, and look, if your printer messes up or there's traffic and you make it to, let's say even an opposing council serve at 5.01pm, you're done. You know, that case, you, you may have just jeopardized the entire case.

13:39Mighty Mike:Yeah.

13:39Brandon Yadegar:So sometimes declarations make up for things, but I'll Tell you, we've done declarations where it was even the client's fault. But in order for the client to show the court that it wasn't their fault, they let us go. So things like that happen. Nobody's perfect either. I'm not claiming to be perfect, but I could tell you that that quote, it still rings true to this day. You're only as good as your last serve.

14:04Mighty Mike:I'm gonna put that in your show notes. As you're like, as your quote, you're taking it. You know, the truth is you give somebody credit for a quote twice and then it be. Hey, quick break from the episode to

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15:02Mighty Mike:Now let's get back to the show. Okay, welcome back to the show. Brandon, are you ready for the rapid fire round? He did that pretty good, man. I could actually hear it. If I sent you a routine serve today to your company, when would you make your first attempt?

15:25Brandon Yadegar:So we quote 72 hours before the first attempt takes place. Our servers get on it much faster than that. Sometimes same day, sometimes 48 hours. But we do, you know, under promise and over deliver. We do that with our affiliates as well as our clients.

15:38Mighty Mike:How and when do I receive status on my order?

15:41Brandon Yadegar:So we have two different ways you can do that. Our website automatically emails you statuses as they happen. It's live. Our processors have GPS tracking on their phones, right when they put in their GPS for the attempts, the coordinates pop up and so do their notations. And then you get an email with all that information.

15:58Mighty Mike:How many attempts do you offer?

15:59Brandon Yadegar:So the minimum number of attempts we give is five. But if the person is just not home, the processor just had bad luck for five attempts. They'll continue going. But if they found it to be easy, evasive, or you know, it's that person's not there, then obviously they're not going to continue attempting, of course.

16:15Mighty Mike:How much do you charge for your Local area, roughly.

16:18Brandon Yadegar:So it depends. So I have some affiliates that we give a lot of work to and they want exchange rates like Knox, so we lower our rates for them. Then we have the affiliate that has, you know, every other week of serve. Generally, it's about $50 for affiliates and covers a very large portion of California.

16:39Mighty Mike:That's awesome. Once completed, how and when can I expect my proof of service?

16:44Brandon Yadegar:So, great question. We have an assembly line. That's how our service works. From the person that intakes your documents to the person that dispatches out into the field to the person that gets the status into the proof of service, and finally the person that actually drafts the proof. So given that we have an assembly line, it's actually really fast. We have it for you the same day. If it's something that's out in the field that's coming back, post on council delivery. You get the proof of service right away. Otherwise, if it's served that night, then the very next day you have your proof of service.

17:16Mighty Mike:What is your company's slogan?

17:18Brandon Yadegar:So our company, we recently changed it two years ago. It's attorney service run by attorneys. Our office has two different attorneys there. They're staffed to answer procedural questions for the paralegals and sometimes affiliate.

17:32Mighty Mike:Oh, that's actually really cool. Attorney services run by attorneys.

17:36Brandon Yadegar:Yeah.

17:36Mighty Mike:Okay. That's awesome. I know you said you were going to law school. Like, you're pretty. You might be almost there.

17:41Brandon Yadegar:I could have been, but it's not my bread and butter and my forte, to be honest.

17:46Mighty Mike:How does a listener hire your company?

17:49Brandon Yadegar:You could go on our website oncalllegal.com, just create an account on there. You can email us orderscalllegal.com or just give us a call.

17:59Mighty Mike:So what's the number one piece of advice you would give to other affiliates out there?

18:03Brandon Yadegar:So I think about strengthening our industry every day. I think that's what CalSpo is about. That's what Naps is about. One of the main things that I've noticed with all of our affiliates and some of them we've had for over 10 years, like s and R Services up north in San Bruno, we have one thing in common and one goal in mind. We're not trying to grab each other, to try to make a big profit on one another. Our goal is, and it should be for every single affiliate, is we allow each other to have expansive coverage. For instance, you're in Chico. It's really up north. Right. But if you have, let's say, a court filing for downtown courthouse. You have a sister company on called Legal that we can file it within minutes. So you have that leverage to say, hey, you know what, I have a sister company down south and I can take care of anything for you as fast as I can take care of it up here in Chico. And then the rates that I provide you are so that you can make a decent profit on them. I'm not gouging you on my rates because you're giving me a super rush which allows you to give me more work and it allows you to advertise for an area that you normally wouldn't want to cover, don't have the coverage to cover, but guess what? Now you do the same thing. Like Knox gives us a 200 page opposing counsel across the street. Of course I can knock it out. I mean, it's literally a five minute walk across the street. So Knox now can grab and push their deadlines out really late. And their clients love that. So affiliates need to help each other grow and not think of it as how much money can I make off this affiliate and charge them as a normal rate for somebody else. And when you give that comfort to one another, you help out each other, your industry grows and everybody's happy and everybody kind of gets a piece of the pie. So nobody's complaining. And there's so much to go around that there's no need for us to fight over law firms to fight over, you know, trying to undermine each other by, I can offer you a rate $10 lower. And if we do that, then we price cut each other to death. So it's important to remember who your partners are. It's actually the affiliates. You can look at us as competition or you can look at us as friends. We've done that and we've established that with a host of affiliates and I hope that we continue to do that and other affiliates buy into this philosophy because it really helps everybody out.

20:35Mighty Mike:Well, I can tell you, Brandon, after attending the Calspro conference and making a lot of new connections this last weekend, I can tell you that that whole philosophy of, you know, treating each other like friends and using the resources, I guess you said, you know, like you said, expanding your reach. I know you guys have been great for us down there. You got the motorcycle process servers out there being able to weave in and out of traffic, get people served really quickly. So. And I appreciate, appreciate you guys down there. It's a great piece of advice.

21:03Brandon Yadegar:We appreciate you up north, man. You've saved our tail plenty of times. And I Know, some stuff I send you is rural and you don't want to do it, but you've always cut me deals beyond Lace, so I appreciate that, too, as well, man.

21:16Mighty Mike:Yeah, not a problem. Yeah, we do live up here in the boonies, middle of nowhere. That's awesome. Okay, guys. Well, this has been such an awesome interview, and I want to thank everyone for listening. We're actually going to move into the Prank a process server portion of the show. We're going to make it quick, but Brandon's got some things to do. But I'm pretty excited. So, Brandon, who are we pranking first?

21:39Brandon Yadegar:I was thinking of pranking Christian from Commercial Process.

21:43Mighty Mike:Oh, man. Now, is Christian your friend?

21:46Brandon Yadegar:Yeah, we talked here. There not. I haven't hung out with Christian before myself. Now I think he's gonna want to hang out just to punch me in the face after this. He just came to mind because he was the last person to email me about Kalesboro, so. Happy to return the favor and, you know, get a chuckle out of him.

22:05Mighty Mike:Just getting anybody who works for his office will be funny, too. Be better if you get him, though.

22:11Brandon Yadegar:Here we go. Thank you for calling Commercial Processor. If you know the extension number of the person you're trying to reach, you may dial it now. For court services, dial one for service process, Dial two for subpoena. I forgot to block my number. Hey, who's this? Carlos. Hi, Carlos. How are you? Good. How are you doing? Well, thank you. You guys do service the process, right? Yeah, and I have a service of process in Ventura. I wanted to see if you guys could help me out with that. Yeah. Where are you calling from, Mom? Calling from home. Yeah. No, but the company you with, it's not a company. Okay, so this is just for yourself? That's correct. Okay. What city again, did you say? Ventura Accounting. Okay. We've done work for you before. No. Okay, So, I mean, it really depends on the client type, but routine service gonna be 75 and. Yeah, we do up to four attempt. That's per definite per address. So, yeah. Yeah. And for the 75, big bucks. You guys guarantee the serve, right? No, we never guarantee anything. You don't guarantee the serve. So. So then why would I just not, like, give it to, like, an Uber driver to go and attempt four times? It come out cheaper than $75. Well, I don't. Yeah, yeah, you do whatever you want. Those RV Uber's gonna take over your business like that. No. Come on, Carlos. I'm just messing with you, man. We're. We're pranking you and you're on process server daily.

24:10Mighty Mike:And what's going on, Carlos? You on process server daily, man?

24:25Brandon Yadegar:It's Brandon from on call legal, man. I was just glancing with you. So Uber's gonna take over your industry, huh?

24:37Mighty Mike:Hey, Carlos, did you recognize his voice?

24:41Brandon Yadegar:I kind of did.

24:47Mighty Mike:I'm at home and he's like, wild,

24:54Brandon Yadegar:Man. Brandon.

24:56Mighty Mike:All right, all right. That's all right, though. You've been a good.

24:59Brandon Yadegar:I'm gonna crank out someone else. I'll rock my number this time.

25:05Mighty Mike:That was good, though.

25:07Brandon Yadegar:Good talking to Carlos. I'll Uber you over here. We'll get a drink, man. That was gonna block right over, dude.

25:17Mighty Mike:Yes. He saw commercial. I was wondering. I didn't ask him. Like, he's not gonna call from his office because they're gonna see his number.

25:23Brandon Yadegar:Even my says on call, on call legal account.

25:26Mighty Mike:I wonder if you could block it.

25:27Brandon Yadegar:I can. Yeah. I just gotta star 6, 7 it. Maybe we should call Mike Santos and.

25:33Mighty Mike:Yeah, call him. Call him.

25:34Brandon Yadegar:Or, you know the other thing we could do? We could have, like, call someone. Be like, yeah, why are you serving me papers? You know, being all angry that you served me papers.

25:43Mighty Mike:Call Mike Santos. Call him.

25:46Brandon Yadegar:What's the script on him? What should I say on him?

25:49Mighty Mike:Someone told me you did free services or something.

25:53Brandon Yadegar:Yeah, yeah, Be like, yeah, can you do this? Serve out of the goodness of your heart?

25:59Mighty Mike:Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're good at this, man. You're good at this.

26:03Brandon Yadegar:What's his number? I'll start. Six, seven.

26:05Mighty Mike:Yeah, let me look it up.

26:10Brandon Yadegar:Yeah, it is Mike. Hello? Yeah, how you doing, man? I'll talk to call you regarding a service process. You be serving Salem, Oregon? Yes, I do. Cool, man, cool. So I got a situation on hand. They told me to write a man a call. I got my baby mama bothering me, man. So I went to cold. I got me a temporary restraining order. They told me I gotta serve her right quick, real fast, you know what I'm saying? What's your hearing date? I ain't got it in front of me, but I find that out and then can I email it to you? So are you here in Salem or. No, I'm not in Salem. I'm in. I'm in Cali. But they organ documents. I got them filed with the courthouse. My attorney tell me I need to find a processor. Yeah, you can PDF me. I need to know. Go ahead. Go ahead and PDF me over the documents. I'll take a PDF and then I'll make sure that they're they're tight and. Right. And then we'll go from there. I appreciate that, man. Yeah. Email to you and. And give me your contact information in your email and then I'll send you a link for PayPal. Yeah, okay. PayPal. How much it gonna cost me, though? Depending on what and where it is. That's why I want to see it. They start at 104. A hundred dollars. One and a quarter. One. One hundred and a quarter. A hundred dollars. 125. Okay, 125. Cent. No, $125. Oh, 125. Can you do it for $25 out of the goodness of your hot. No, it does not. And rest are the biggest paying class. You will not find anyone who'll do it for 25. Oh, yeah. But can you do it out of the goodness of your hot, though? This is a business, sir. My session would be. Has been to try preferred. Preferred process workers. Yeah, but they say you the best. I want to give it to the best. But I ain't trying to pay 125. But I don't work for free. You know, restraining orders are the ones that have the most potential for violence and confrontation. So it is what it is. Oh, you say you do for free? No, I do not. Oh, oh, oh, I hear.

28:32Mighty Mike:I hear you.

28:33Brandon Yadegar:Can you do it for $35? I think I'm not gonna do it for you at all. You have a good answer. Oh, that's good.

28:46Mighty Mike:You gotta call him back.

28:50Brandon Yadegar:Should I call him back?

28:51Mighty Mike:Yeah, you gotta, man. You gotta call him back. But let me. Let me talk. Put it next to the thing.

28:56Brandon Yadegar:Okay, okay, okay. All right. I'm not able to take your call right now. Number and a brief message.

29:10Mighty Mike:Oh, man. He's like, I don't want any part

29:14Brandon Yadegar:of that dude anymore. A restraining order. Out of all the things that get served, you know.

29:20Mighty Mike:Oh, my God. Oh, my gosh. Call him back again. He's gonna be pissed when he answers.

29:34Brandon Yadegar:All right, I'm not able to take a card.

29:37Mighty Mike:Leave a message. Leave a message.

29:39Brandon Yadegar:You gonna leave it?

29:41Mighty Mike:Yeah, yeah.

29:46Brandon Yadegar:All right, I'm not able to take your call right now, but if you leave your name, number, and a brief message after the tone, I'll get back to you as soon as I possibly can.

29:53Mighty Mike:What's up, Mike? This is Michael Reed from Process Server Daily. You were just on the Process Server Daily Show. Prank a process server, and I'm here with Brandon.

30:02Brandon Yadegar:Mike,

30:05Mighty Mike:man, you handled that pretty good, man. You handled that pretty good.

30:08Brandon Yadegar:Professional. All Right.

30:12Mighty Mike:Much love. Much love, man. Good job. So anyway, that was good. That was really good.

30:18Brandon Yadegar:The other guys here was getting heated. I said, kenny, did I have to get this year?

30:22Mighty Mike:And you did good. Your. Your black voice is good. Your black voice is good. You're, like. At the end, you'd be like, goodness save you, huh? Like, he's got a little bit of flavor. He's got a little bit of flavor. You're doing that on purpose, huh?

30:35Brandon Yadegar:Next time we're gonna do Indian. Then we're gonna do. I'll do. I'll do Persian. I have a really good Persian. Like, a heavy Persian. And then we'll do, like, a Korean one. I'm really good with that, you know?

30:45Mighty Mike:Oh, okay.

30:46Brandon Yadegar:Watch your man. $20, you know?

30:50Mighty Mike:Okay. So what is your parting piece of advice for server nation?

30:54Brandon Yadegar:Don't be that guy that goes and knocks on the door and just puts down an attempt, hoping to gain some diligence and then subserving it eventually, or just to show your client that you've done your due diligence less than the number of times you have to go there. Ask around. Neighbors don't leave any rock unturned because they could be hiring another server and because they're just so anxious to get that thing served. And if you don't serve it in that person, then it's as if, like I said, you just lost out on a lot. So they're hiring us as a process server for that reason. Of course. We're not investigators. You don't have to run and sit and do skip tracing before you go to that address or see the guy's whereabouts. But you know what? Just for the sake of you, lessening the number of times you have to waste your gas and time to go there, do a little bit of homework before you serve that person. Especially if somebody emails you something saying, this is an evasive service or this guy may not be willing to accept.

31:50Mighty Mike:That's good stuff. Yeah. Being able to think about what you're doing, think about where you're going. And someone told me this before, that you know, that if you have an intention to serve something, like it's your true intention, and you go out there and you knock on the door, they're not home. You go knock on the neighbors, they don't know anything, and it's really your man. I don't want to have to come back out here and you're sitting there and you're, like, filling out your paperwork, they pull in the driveway. I can't tell you how many times. Oh, yeah, that has happened. Happen for you, too.

32:15Brandon Yadegar:Yeah. 100%, man. So sometimes I would stick around. Sometimes when I'm trying to serve someone, they didn't pay for a stakeout. I'm not gonna sit there for an hour or two.

32:25Mighty Mike:Right.

32:26Brandon Yadegar:I'll hang around tight. Because guess what? If they're not home, I'll wait for the neighbors to get home, because then I want to ask the neighbors. And neighbors are very helpful the majority of the times. Yeah. Sometimes they don't know who you are either. They don't want to, you know, unload information. But for the most part, I've had so much help from the neighbors where I've disqualified serving someone because I know that the neighbors being truthful and telling me that these people haven't lived here for years. Yeah, I remember them. They used to be my clients or they used to be my best neighbor and this and that. And this guy moved to Ohio or whatever the case may be. I mean, if you. Again, like you said, you stick around, and all of a sudden they're pulling in to the driveway and you just got them personal service.

33:09Mighty Mike:Yeah. It's the difference between having a declaration full of attempts and actually having completed service. Slam dunk, you know, it's done.

33:18Brandon Yadegar:Yes.

33:18Mighty Mike:And someone who's done proofs before, and I was doing my own proofs all the time. It was a big deal to get personal service. It was like, yes. Oh, yeah. When you do a proof versus having to mail something and due diligence on

33:33Brandon Yadegar:there, you know, and it's less ability of them challenging the service.

33:38Mighty Mike:Right.

33:39Brandon Yadegar:More bulletproof, I would say. And believe me, the paralegals, the attorneys, they see that stuff, man, you know? Oh. And it gives them much less time to respond. So allows the plaintiff or whoever it is that you're serving to propound discovery, get their stuff on the road. So they love it when there's a personal service. You have to give them 10 extra days. In California, when you subserve from the date of mailing. Right.

34:03Mighty Mike:That's half a month.

34:04Brandon Yadegar:Yeah. And sometimes, you know, you don't mail it out that night. You know what I mean? You might mail the next day, two, three days later. I mean, if you have a lot of proofs and you're really backed up, you might take a couple of days so to look at the date of the mailing until they can propound discovery.

34:18Mighty Mike:Brandon, that is an awesome piece of advice. I think that we can all take. This has been so much fun, man. Again, I appreciate you coming on and let's do this again, man. Let's get together.

34:28Brandon Yadegar:Thank you, Mike. Appreciate it, man. I had a great time.

34:30Outro:We'll catch you next time. Until next time, you've been served up some awesomeness by Brandon and Mighty Mike the Podcast Server

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