34 - Brendon Carl | Mighty Process Server

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0:02Intro:You're listening to Process Server Daily, the

0:05Brendon Carl:show where hustle meets strategy in the

0:08Intro:high stakes world of process serving. From elite pros to the new servers taking massive action, these are the voices of a rising industry. Hosted by the founder of One2Three Legal Support, Mighty Mike Reed. This is your backstage path to building a profitable process serving empire. Let's get into it. Welcome back to another episode of Process Server Daily. I'm really excited to be able to relaunch the podcast and to frankly bring back something that I hear more than anything when I go to conferences. I hear, aren't you the guy that does the podcast? And so we still get thousands of downloads every every month and it's something that has kind of been neglected. And so recently we've done a big push to get us get it going again. And I am graced today by the wonderful Brennan Carl, the CEO of Win Win Process Serving located in Texas. Welcome, sir.

1:09Brendon Carl:How you doing, Mike?

1:10Mighty Mike:I'm doing pretty good, man. Just enjoying the day. We had a great mastermind meeting just now and team meeting and just doing a lot of fun things on the mighty front. But today what I want to do is I want to focus on you at Win Win over in Texas. Like process servers. One thing that I've is that when you're busy a lot of times they don't have time for interviews at all either. But you make the time to be able to promote your business, to be able to get new customers, but also to be able to work on your brand. And so. But let's take it back to when you very first started, Brandon, tell us a little bit about who you are and like why you chose process serving to begin with.

1:49Brendon Carl:Well, I got, I've been married for 12 years, I got five kids, I got a lot of responsibilities, a lot of bills, you know, especially now this time of year it's, you know, it's holiday time. It's about when I started getting into process serving. I was looking on Craigslist and I found a process serving job and I wasn't really sure what it was and I was in California at the time and I went and interviewed with this guy and he explained it all to me and it was very intimidating at first, you know, and, but he paid for me to get the licenses and all that and I got started on it and it was the one thing I could do that kind of worked around my kids schedules and also was very profitable. So it was kind of a weird thing.

2:27Mighty Mike:Yeah, I mean the time freedom that you have serving I mean, some. Even if you have 20, 30 serves in your bucket, you still have time to say, okay, during the day, I'm going to go have lunch with my kid. I'm going to go. Yeah, you go to the grocery store for the wife like you, you could do a lot of things that if you had a, you know, 9 to 5 job that ends up keeping you till 8 o' clock at night, you just can't do, so.

2:50Brendon Carl:Yeah, exactly, exactly. Lots of kids, lots of changing schedules. You know, I got two kids in junior high, one in elementary, another in high school. So. Yeah, it's crazy.

3:01Mighty Mike:You're running the gauntlet, man. Yeah, that's awesome. So, so when you, so you got started serving and you said it made good money, like, what, what, what was that first realization of, like, I get, you know, 30, $40 of paper. I do 10, 20 papers a day. Like, how did that were some of the numbers when you first got started?

3:21Brendon Carl:When I first started, it was, it was weird in California was it was 13 an hour and $7 a serve. And to me, it was really great because the highest paid job I had was about seven or 15 bucks an hour. At the time, I was a young man and I was like, well, the more serves I can do in an hour. Well, let me start doing this math. And, you know, I started making 40, 50 bucks an hour. And tell my friends, they wouldn't believe me, you know, but it did math out to about 40, 50 an hour. And he was giving me a car at the time, so it was really worth it. You know, I had a company vehicle.

3:51Mighty Mike:Yeah, see, that's the thing. Like, it's funny you say that your friends didn't believe. It's like there's such a social, like, value placed on how much you make per hour. Like, what's the value you give to the marketplace? You have to be a surgeon or something in order to make 50 or $100 an hour. And so, and there is a world where that's true. The one world where it's not true is entrepreneurship. You know, true. You're giving value. It's still based on the value equation, but it's not based on your title. It's based on literally the value you're providing, how quick you could do it. Like, if you decided to just cruise around town, you're not serving four papers an hour, you're serving zero. One. Yeah. Or zero. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But, but 15 minutes I used to calculate, like, at the very least I could attempt one every 15 minutes is that about what you figured out or were they closer together?

4:42Brendon Carl:Well, I was in Sacramento at the time, and they were really super close. Out here in Texas, not so. Not so much. Unless you're, like, really in Austin, which nobod wants to be serving in Austin. The traffic's nuts, but it was really close together, so I was doing probably four or five an hour.

4:56Mighty Mike:Yeah.

4:56Brendon Carl:So it really made sense.

4:57Mighty Mike:Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's cool. That's cool. Yeah. So you get started and you realize, like, wow, I could not get a job that's going to pay me this much. Like a job. I just can't get out of it. Yeah. So then when did you decide to serve on your own?

5:11Brendon Carl:So I had been into it about three years, and I was doing it for big box companies, and then I'm kind of a slow learner, I guess. You know, after about two or three years, I started to catch it on to what was really going on, because I was kind of just doing the footwork. Just, here you go. Okay, sign. Sign the affidavit. Turn it in. And then I thought to myself, well, they're not doing anything I can't do, Right. Why not just do it myself? So I made in a DBA at the time, and I went around to local attorneys and a family law attorney got me, basically gave me an opportunity and dealt with all my newbie mistakes and all that kind of stuff. But they're. God bless them, you know, they. They helped me out.

5:45Mighty Mike:So when you have somebody to support you like that, it just means it makes all the difference. When I first started this woman, Diane, I was actually in your neck of the woods. I was north in the Chico area. And it's like in 2013, late 2013, I was serving and. And she would give me all her pay, like one out of. She. We had five servers. And I've told the story many times before, but in. In the podcast. But basically she dealt with me being a knucklehead many, many, many times. Like, signing the proof of service before it's all filled out. You can't do that. You know, trying to. She's like. I'm like, just sign for me. She's like, you can't sign for other people. That's called forgery. Like, you know, when you first start, there's a lot of things you don't know. And you're like, well, Mike, come on, everyone knows it. No, if you dropped out of high school and you tried to do your own thing in sales and then you got started, became a Process server, maybe you don't know a lot of these things. Birds of a feather, my friend. So, so. So you've been serving a while, would you say, Is it fair to say you've served over a thousand papers?

6:51Brendon Carl:Oh, easily, yeah.

6:52Mighty Mike:Yeah. You know, one of the first guys I met that really influenced me a lot was a guy named Cliff Jacobs. And he's one that used to be a one legal guy. And because he was the affiliate manager, he would call the affiliates and hire process servers all over, all over the country for this company. And one of the things he told me when I first met him did, when I did the Cals Pro certification is he said, you could work for this big company, one legal, but you got to go serve a thousand papers first and, and then come back to me. And I remember being kind of offended. I'm like, you think that I need to serve a thousand papers to be proficient at this? And while it's true that you don't need a thousand to be proficient, you can learn all the things you need to learn before you serve the first one, or at least the majority of it. And then by doing it, you'll get better at it. What not to say. And so it's interesting, I always ask people that because I'm interested to know where they're at. Because, because you, once you've served a thousand papers, you realize most of the stuff that you. That you learned doesn't matter. You get out there, knock on the door to be safe. Like, all of a sudden, the only thing that matters is how do I not have to come back to this address again? What do I have to do to not have to ever come back here again for this serve? And then the second one is, how do I be safe? And maybe that one should be first. How do I be safe in serving? Right?

8:13Brendon Carl:Definitely. You know, it's funny, the first door here in Texas was over in Taylor, Texas, right next door to my hometown. And I was excited. It was about 9 o' clock at night, which was my fault. And Taylor's a little, little wild, you know. So I knocked on the door and there's, there's obviously people in there and knocked about three or four times. Nobody answered, so I walked away. And then I saw the light kind of enveloped me from the back of the door opening, and I saw the shadowy guy had a gun in his hand. And I turned around and said, hey man, I'm just trying to serve some papers to so and so. And I read the name and he goes, I'm Sorry, man, I'm just, you know, I'm spooked out here. He put the gun inside and he came and got his papers and went inside. So,

8:50Mighty Mike:yeah, dangerous thing is a lot of people will pull a gun thinking that they're gonna scare somebody. But you scare the wrong person, you're dead. It's like, you know, you scare the wrong person and they're not going to take a chance on you. They're just gonna put you down. So. But yeah, good, good. So what, what is it? What is a story that you've, that you have had where you, where it taught you something where afterwards you learned what not to do in the industry?

9:21Brendon Carl:Well, there was this one time in California, I was a newer process server and this guy was getting kind of mouthy behind the door and I had this kind of air about me, like, you know, I'm a certified process server, you have to take the papers from me. Was just like, come. I was telling, come out and grab your papers. I was kind of mouthy with them. And he opened the door with a gun and he put it right in my face and he goes, get away from my door. I say, yes, sir. I walked off. Now nowadays, I mean, I get any kind of gruff or whatever, you know, someone lies to me and I know they're lying to me. I'm not a lie detector man, you know what I mean? I take down what happened and I send it in. You know, I'm not trying to ruffle others.

9:54Mighty Mike:Yeah, you're trying to make money. You know what I take from your story is what I've been saying forever. It's like it's, it's not worth no papers, worth your life. And you know, I remember when I first started, a big part of making a name for myself was that I would jump over fences, that I would, I should say fall over fences. I would, I would, I would hike up a mountain where you couldn't see the house in a pot growing area in Bernie Berry Creek, California. And I would, you know, one time I even went into somebody's house, the lady let me in. Okay, So I was invited in, but I went in the house and served the young man in the chair sleeping. And he jumped up and anyway, all these are examples of stuff I would never do today. I would never teach anyone to do today because it's not worth your life.

10:45Brendon Carl:It's not, it's not.

10:48Mighty Mike:Yeah. And so, yeah, also just being understanding that whoever you're serving could be on the good side. Like if you knew the whole story, you might actually side with the person you're serving. So you have a little bit of empathy when you come to the door and you. And you serve them.

11:03Brendon Carl:And for the opposite effect, I try not to read into things or try to like, look through case files, especially TROs and stuff like that, because maybe I might see something that maybe kind of turned me off on the person and then they open the door. I'm like, you know, already kind of biased towards the situation. So I just, I don't even look at anything, you know, I just like, make sure it's accurate when I package it up and go ahead and deliver it. So.

11:23Mighty Mike:Yeah. Yeah. So one of the things that we do at Mighty Process Server is we actually have an app that we're building, Mighty Dashboard. And one of the elements inside of there is where AI will scan the documents for potential threats. And I'm really excited about that because it'll just basically say if there is. It won't say anything. It'll just be green, little green little lock symbol. But if it's. If it detects any kind of a threat, it'll have a little red ding and you can click on it and see why. Summary of. Of where the person was violent with someone when went to jail or something, you know, and I think that's going to be really. Hopefully that'll help less process servers because you could charge more for it if you want to go and bring an armed guard, maybe even, you know.

12:07Brendon Carl:Right, right. Or, you know, it's good to know for, you know, you know, female counterparts that are doing this and maybe they're serving a person that likes to, you know, commit those kind of crimes. You know, I've seen some very. Situations. Never know.

12:19Mighty Mike:Yeah, you never know. So transitioning. So, you know, one thing is like, you get a lot of experiences. I say one in a thousand or negative like that, where you really have a rough time. But most people. One thing, I don't know if you've had this experience, Brendan, but most people are good. Most people are pretty cool.

12:37Brendon Carl:Yeah. 9.5 out of 10 times they just. All right, cool. I even need to thank you sometimes, you know that point. They have an attitude, but it's not a big deal.

12:45Mighty Mike:Yeah. And then you get, you know, one person is like trying to give you cookies and invite you in and you're like, I don't know about you, but I stopped taking the cookies, stopped going in. I don't wanna, you know, but at some point I did. I was like, great score. You know, let's go to the next.

12:58Brendon Carl:I've had some great times with people I've served. Absolutely.

13:00Mighty Mike:Yeah. Yeah. So what's the best time that you've had out there serving where you really felt like it was a rewarding career that you, that maybe that's the reason why you're still serving today?

13:13Brendon Carl:I've done many, helped a lot of landlords, you know, with tough, tough, you know, people getting people out and stuff like that. That feels rewarding to me in a sense because my mom, she owns a property management place and she, you know, I know how hard it is to kind of reclaim your, your stuff, if you will, you know, especially California. But I like doing that kind of stuff. I like certain divorce cases where maybe, you know, it's not, it's not contentious. It's like a good service. You know what I mean? It's like they're both, you know, agreeing to it and stuff like that. Because I had a. I'm on my second marriage. My first one wasn't very easy, but I like to see that, that kind of easy going stuff also with like, like cases. I do a lot of CPS stuff, so a lot of us for CPS and you know, subpoenas and stuff like that. So it feels good to kind of help with the child protection part of it, you know, and kind of helping families in that way. All of it's really good. I mean, it's, it's also good to feel like you're being a part of the natural American, you know, law system of giving people due process and, and kind of seeing it behind the scenes because not a lot of people see that. You know, a lot of people just kind of go to court or hear about people going to court and they don't really understand the inter machinations behind making that happen. So.

14:20Mighty Mike:Yeah, well, I tell you, there's a lot of, there's a lot that. I mean, going back to my story of thinking of like, I remember getting served legal documents by my ex who was, who was like in the, in the system. She was like a department of child support Services or whatever. She worked for them. So she knew all the bells and whistles and how it worked. And so when I got started, divorce papers, and it said, the papers actually said you're, you know, you get visitation, supervised visitation, you had to pay for the supervisor and all this. And, and there's no details and you've never read out any of these documents before. It's overwhelming. And like my kids are everything to me. So I remember being like on the courthouse steps, like, bawling like a baby, thinking like, like, I don't know how to do this. And I. You go the facilitator, they're like, well, just figure it out. Like, refill them out first and then we file them. But in having been. And this is what inspired me actually to. To start process serving, I'm like. At first I was like, justice, you know, I'm going to help all the single dads out there. And then I was like. And then I learned that most single dads were kind of what they say they are. Most of them. Most of them actually aren't paying their child support. Most of them aren't actually doing what they're supposed to do. But there's some of us out here that are doing. Doing what we're supposed to do. And. But anyway, yeah, so that's a great story. You know, taking. Finding your niche is one of the things I always teach people in the community is find that like, whether it's evictions or maybe personal injury, attorneys that are trying to find, you know, they're representing someone who got like, basically taken advantage of and the insurance company's not helping. You can actually, especially in the PI world, you can take it to the next level and you go, you can actually make a huge impact on the community and the people that you're serving. So I appreciate that story.

16:08Brendon Carl:Not a problem. A lot of my PI work is uneventful. I kind of just go to stores and see if they have footage of Rex right now. So kind of keeping my toe on it right now. So.

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17:36Brendon Carl:Skip tracing. I have my PI buddy, we have a little database he uses. I just got access to that. So that's one thing. Before that it was really simple rudimentary things like white pages and phone number lookups, stuff like that. I don't do a lot of skip tracing in my business. I don't think I ever really get a whole lot of requests for that because I get a lot of stuff from attorneys who handle that themselves. But for those process servers starting off, if you don't have a lot of money to spend, white pages is spectacular thing to do use also they have hunting apps that you can use. You can type in the address and see kind of that the person lives there if it's owned by them, stuff like that. So you know, tips of the trade.

18:16Mighty Mike:Yeah, I usually call this the rapid fire round. I didn't introduce it that way but I'm going off memory. But yeah, the different tools that we use, I mean everybody can use anything. There's no judgment but understanding kind of what makes you tick, what your, what's going on in your business. How about for your server software? Do you use a server software?

18:36Brendon Carl:So right now serve manager, but I do hopefully look forward to moving over to the stuff that you're building here soon.

18:42Mighty Mike:So yeah, I'm excited about it. Yeah, it's going to be good. Definitely. Yeah, there's a lot of different options, but that's good. Yeah, that's a cool. It's one of the easier ones to use. Server manager. What about for finding process servers? Like, you know, I know we have our directory Mighty Process server, but where did you find the best way to find servers?

19:10Brendon Carl:Well, obviously NAPS is a great, a great tool. I've also used your directory, the Mighty Mighty process service directory a couple times to find people in other states. I use Facebook. There's a couple Facebook groups that are very good, especially ones that are Texas based and also naturally. And then also cards, business cards from meetings and get togethers I get with and all that kind of stuff. I first look through the business cards I have. If I have something in an area that I don't know if I have anybody in, then if that doesn't work I go and do my other stuff.

19:39Mighty Mike:So do you feel, do you feel like it's you when you, when you hire a server? Because I know like if you flip the switch right you when they're calling me or they're calling you, let's say to hire you to serve in your local area, do you get, you know, what's your affiliate rate a lot or is that kind of dying out where people are just like, how much, much you charge?

19:59Brendon Carl:You know, just how much you charge? Honestly, for the most part, I, the, the emails through naps or the ones that ask for affiliate rate, do you have affiliate, you know, special price, all that kind of stuff. But the phone calls are just, hey, what do you charge? And that's about it.

20:12Mighty Mike:Yeah. How important, how important is it to answer your phone?

20:17Brendon Carl:Extremely. I cannot tell you how many people I've called that are supposed to have process serving companies. And I've called them every day, seven days a week, sometimes multiple times, and they still have not gotten back to me. And I'm like, wow, it must be nice not to need money.

20:31Mighty Mike:Yeah. You know what's funny is a lot of them really do need money. A lot of them really. I mean, we all need money. But like they, some of them, you know, they're not paying their bills and they're also not answering their phones. And you're like. And so one thing. Yeah, they go together. So one thing I say is like, you know, answer your phone. Of course, if you, you know, it's, it's money rigging. But nowadays they get a lot of spam calls. Do you find like you get a lot of spam calls or no?

20:58Brendon Carl:Yeah, but not to my business line, thankfully. Just to my normal kind of personal line. And when I hear that certain tip, like a certain thing that makes me think it's a scam call. I pretend like they're live on a YouTube channel of a scammer. YouTube. And they say bad things and they hang up. So I like to play with them. Yeah, I get those. I get those.

21:15Mighty Mike:Yeah. Actually, actually there is an easy way to like stop them is to create a phone tree where they have to click seven. So you go, you know, press one to leave a message, press two to reach the operator, and that gets rid of like 90% of them. And I only know that because in real estate we actually do cold. We have tools that we use, you know, call rail and call tools is what it's called. And then there's one called Mojo Dialer in real estate. And they all do the same thing. It's like basically they don't. Until you answer and say something, it doesn't know that you answered. So you'll always have a pause.

21:52Brendon Carl:So is that something like just an app you can download or.

21:55Mighty Mike:Well, yeah, any. Like, if you get like Ring Central is a good one. I use for one of my business, for my main. For 1, 2, 3 legal support. And you're actually able to create phone trees. And actually, if you just tell them what you want, you can call them and they'll actually set it up for you. Dial pads, another one I really like dial pads app for, like to have it on the computer and on the. As a great app on the phone too. And then you can text. You can text and call and I think the iPad for one of the numbers I have, it's only like 20, 20 bucks a month, so that's not bad at all. Yeah, especially for the technology, how good the technology is. And you can actually have your VAs use it too. If you use VAs overseas or, you know, if you hire anyone to help, you could give them login access or forward it to their phone number when you want to as well.

22:41Brendon Carl:So that's very nice.

22:42Mighty Mike:Yeah, A month.

22:43Brendon Carl:And I don't have any of that, so.

22:45Mighty Mike:Yeah, it's just helpful because all the spam calls I. On my cell for one of my businesses, a junk removal dumpster rental business, and I get spam calls all the time. And I'm like, I have to answer, though, because it's the. You know, it's a hustle. You know, I thought I was done hustle. And then I bought this company for my son to. To do dumpster rentals and because he didn't want to serve, and now he doesn't want to do dumpsters, but he wants to serve because he's like, it's easier, dad. I'd rather do that. I'm like, okay, so now I'm over here running dumpsters. Anyways. So, Brendan, what's your. What's your advice for someone who's thinking about starting to serve? And they're what? They're listening to this and they're like, it's kind of interesting. But what would you. What would your advice be to that new person that's thinking about serving?

23:31Brendon Carl:Well, I would say look into what it takes to become a process server in the area. Make sure you're eligible. Right. And make sure there's a market for it. Typically, if you have to get a license and a certification, there typically is a market for it. I was in little tiny Twin Falls, Idaho, shout out to them. Little small town. Process serving wasn't a feasible thing to pay my bills with five kids and a wife, you know, this wasn't a very big area. Wasn't a lot of people, wasn't litigious. I would make sure you're near like a metropolis, something like that. If you want to dip your toes in the water, I would say, and get with, you know, call a couple people locally. Don't just maybe make a business and go into it because there's a lot that has to be understood before you can effectively do things. Because attorneys are just going to call you and say here you go, here's the papers, go. And really can't ask any questions sometimes, you know. So I would say have a thorough understanding of it first and then see if you like it because it's not really, not for everybody.

24:24Mighty Mike:Yeah, it's true. Yeah. And, and the safety considerations and knowing that you at some point will have somebody shove you around or, or my

24:35Brendon Carl:face, I mean, you know, everything but punch me, honestly, in 10 years. So I got lucky there. But knives, guns, you name it. Dogs get sick for me, you know, it happens.

24:44Mighty Mike:Yeah. Dogs are probably the most common one and the owner doesn't necessarily have to sick them on you. You're just in their yard.

24:54Brendon Carl:3 Bull Mastiff Circle me like sharks one day in this lady's yard and she was kind of watching, she wasn't trying to help.

25:01Mighty Mike:So like I highly recommend getting like a taser or some type of a thing that makes loud noises that tends to get him to go away. Yeah. For people listening, just. Yeah. And then just also like you said, connect with someone local and see if they'll, if they, if they're getting enough work that they can farm it out to you, then there might be enough work for you to get from attorneys. But if not, then they're like, no, I gotta serve all the work I get. And then there's a, there's a pretty good chance that there's not enough market share to go around. I, I, everywhere I've been, I live in the mountains here. And a lot of the job I did a 10k challenge where I was like, let me see if I could build a new business in 90 days. I put in the, all the replays inside the free community. But I was able to do in just 12 days. And it's a mountain area, but a lot of the serves I had to drive into Albuquerque and it's a major metropolitan area with over a million people. So yeah, I think there's a lot of truth to what you're saying about the population. You have to have a decent population like a hundred thousand or more. Probably. Yeah.

26:09Brendon Carl:I mean here in Austin we have what, two point something million, almost three million and you know, constantly people moving in. So it was a really good area. And then I'm up in Georgetown, so. And there was really nobody in Georgetown at all really in this area. So I just got it kind of lucky and filled the need. But definitely, you know, market research is important, so I would do that.

26:26Mighty Mike:Yeah. My first couple videos inside the community are all about market research, calling your competitors, finding out what they charge, if they're willing to send you work and stuff. So how can everybody keep up with you and reach out to you if they need help in your area?

26:42Brendon Carl:So winwinps.org that's winwinps.org not only do we have a way for you, everybody to put in work, attorneys and just regular people that need help. Also there's a little join me section. I'm going to start doing a newsletter here soon. And also there's for people thinking about becoming process servers. You can click on the link at the top, a little button at the top of my website and it's all 52. Two states how to become a process server. It gives you links to the state websites, all that kind of stuff. It's kind of a resource. And for the newer process servers, I have rules on how to do certain serves like process, sorry, sub service, personal service service, registered agents, all that kind of stuff explained on my website too. So it's kind of a resource and a tool for folks.

27:23Mighty Mike:So you said it's win win, sir.

27:26Brendon Carl:It's win win ps.org okay.

27:30Mighty Mike:Yeah. So definitely go to win win ps.org check to Brendan. Brendan, your area is like Austin area?

27:41Brendon Carl:Yeah. So it's Williamson of Travis county and we serve from DWF currently all the way to San Antonio. That's our main focal points.

27:49Mighty Mike:Okay, awesome.

27:51Brendon Carl:Like us all.

27:53Mighty Mike:Yeah. Well, it's good getting to know you a little bit better. I know we've, we've hung out a little bit in the community and what so far. What. How do you, what do you think of the community? What's. What do you love about it?

28:04Brendon Carl:Well, I love it just because it builds. And in fact, the, the main reason why I was able to market out to DWF and San Antonio was because of the group. You know, we had a lot of great people like Jacob Davis down in San Antonio and a couple other people got with them and we made things happen. They're great people. Super nice. We all kind of share a kindred spirit being in the group. And I was, I was really a lot more active in it until recently. My son got diagnosed with a, the. With the bone condition and I've just, it's been constant. I became a full time teacher now because he's with homeschool and you know, but that's just a testament to kind of process serving as the market. Like I can, I can go ahead and put in six hours a day to my child and still run my business and still get things served and stuff like that. So it's kind of.

28:49Mighty Mike:Well, yeah, I'm sorry, going, going through that. But yeah, it's nice that you're able to just to dedicate that time and. And Jacob's awesome. Jacob's been around forever. He, he's kind of went in and out of different industries but process serving has always been something that he can come back to that makes money, you know.

29:04Brendon Carl:Yeah.

29:06Mighty Mike:Good guy. Good, good contact to have. Well, thank you so much for coming on the show.

29:11Brendon Carl:Thank you for having me, Mike. Appreciate it.

29:12Mighty Mike:Stay connected and I'll see you inside the community.

29:15Brendon Carl:Yes, sir. See you later.

29:17Mighty Mike:Thanks, Brandon.

29:21Outro:That's a wrap on another episode of Process Server Daily where the legal support

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